Went back to old faithful cage for Nov. no-nut, gave ternence .net version of tetherspout a try for 4 days with nub cage. Went to remove spout for cleaning but had put two retaining washers on and it took 1/2 hour to slowly remove. Will relax with this g
Been wearing it for almost 24 hours now. The erections made it hard to sleep at first but somehow I managed to fall asleep after a little while and stayed asleep all night!